Re: Happy Deepavali ....

Wish You happy Depavali.
Ravi Sundaram

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Re: Polavaram Project - Pros & Cons...

Dear Friends,

You can read all the Feasibility Details fro NWDA site. Good reading on
the whole project, its benefits and constraints.

http://nwda.gov.in/psearchdetailmain.asp?pageid=33&linkpos=3

Regards,
Chandu

Re: Polavaram Project - Pros & Cons...

Folks,

Here is the Benefit/Cost analysis.

Of course, this is a large capital project and we may not be able to
talk just in terms of pure cost/benefit analysis. We need to look at it
in a more comprehensive way including socio, economic, political,
environment, opportunity cost, and emotional aspects combined.

I invite members who have interest/expertise in such studies to help
AndhraOne better understand the whole.

http://nwda.gov.in/writereaddata/sublink2images/72.pdf

Thanks,
Chandu

Re: Polavaram Project - Pros & Cons...

Some more details on Polavaram Project...

Polavaram -Vijayawada Link

The Proposal: This is the third link proposed to transfer water from
Godavari to Krishna. This link canal takes off from the Right Bank of
Godavari at the proposed Polavaram reservoir and shall divert 5,325
Mcum of water over a length of 174 km. This link will provide total
irrigation benefits of about 5.82 lakh hectares in Andhra Pradesh.
This link will also cater to transfer of 2,265 Mcum of water to the
Krishna Delta, enroute domestic and industrial requirement of 162 Mcum
and 1,236 Mcum of additional water for stabilization of the existing
command under Krishna Delta, besides transmission losses of 260 Mcum of
water. NWDA has completed the feasibility study of the link.

Engineering Aspect: The Polavaram project proposed by the Government of
Andhra Pradesh will be used for diverting the Godavari water through
this link canal which will be received at the existing Prakasam Barrage
on Krishna river at Vijayawada. The FRL/MWL of Polavaram reservoir is
45.72 m and its gross and live storage capacities are 5511 Mcum and
2130 Mcum respectively. The total length of link canal from Polavaram
dam site to its outfall into Prakasam Barrage is about 174 km. The
link canal takes off from Polavaram reservoir with a FSL of 40.232 m
and outfall into Prakasam Barrage at a FSL of 27.965 m. The link canal
is proposed to be operated through out the year. The design discharge
of the canal at the takeoff point works out to be 405.12 cumecs. The
diversion is entirely by gravity.

Environmental Issue: The Polavaram reservoir submerges an area of
63,691 ha comprising of 60,063 ha in Andhra Pradesh, 2,398 ha in
Chattisgarh and 1,230 ha in Orissa. Out of the total submergence area,
the area under cultivation is about 30,650 ha and the forest area 3,705
ha. The reservoir submergence will affect 250 villages and a total
population of about 1.45 lakhs in the States of Andhra Pradesh,
Chattisgarh and Orissa.

Re: Happy Deepavali ....

Thank you Krishna.
We wish you all the same.

Regards,
Chandu

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Re: predictions!!

Just my 2 cents.......

 

YSR & CBN are just politicians. All their statements are just play. CBN or YSR are not comparable with each other. They are all same. They work for their purpose not for the state or its people.

CBN is smarter than YSR. In his 9+ yrs of his govt. he gathered thousands of crores in different means. He spoiled govt. money for his publicity. He spent 1000-2000 crores on media right from he charged the CM seat. For every program, function he will keep his potrait. If you see the ads for any program under Janmabhoomi, 70% of ad space is occupied by his potrait. When one see the ad he/she thought it is poll stunt not govt's ad. You believe or not, for Neeru-Meeru program only he spent 1000+ crores on Media. If he had spend that money for real purpose we would have got drinking water for most of hamlets. I am not against of media. But who gained with those media publicity. People ?? or CBN?? I insist you people use your discretion, knowledge before praising CBN.

Coming to real estate, everybody knows (ofcourse it is not legally correct) that he has somany acres of lands in madhapur, kondapur, gachibowli, jubileehills area. It may be rumor, but everybody believes that he owned star hotel in singapore.

He is very smart. I like his intelligence like anything. He knows all the sources of money making without any clue. Just take the Hitech city. Is it that much advantage to govt? He gave the govt land to private party and somany subsidaries for just 11% of share. If he is really intended to develop IT, can't AP govt build one IT Park by itself. If he is good, he would have developed hitech city and sold the surrounding lands for goodprice so that govt get some revenue. One more shameless thing, we compare ourselves with banglore. Did we observe what is the share of AP in Indian IT exports. Even we haven't reached Chennai. Did we see TN people barking on their IT exposure. But we.... our great smart CBN. We (not AP govt) must be proud to be part of Indian IT. Whereever you go you find atleast one andhrite in IT related field. IT is just evolving field. But we are neglecting our primary source. Still 60% of Indians depend on agriculture. What CBN have done for agriculture. Nothing!!! He also son of a farmer......

His entry to TDP leadership itself is not fair enough. How can we believe him? He cheated NTR for his sake.... do you believe that he did all this for our sake???

CBN supporters say he brought great recognition to AP. Who cares it?? What development we got?? I agree he tried to make hyderabad beautiful. He involved in raising real-estate in hyderabad. Now it is in under mafia. Do you know what is the active place for mafia in india after mumbai..??? Our bhagyanagar!!!

Coming to our YSR, he is completely opposite to the kind of CBN. He can't take decision on his own. We should discuss about Congress & Congress(I) rather than YSR. Coz' he is just kinda doll. We cannot blame him for whatever he is doing or not doing. After 50years of ruling, Congress & Congress(I) reached its worst stage ever. We are in a unfortunate stuation to accept a foreigner's leadership. Thank god we (or somebody of us) have saved our country agian from slavery. We should appreciate our President in this regard. He responded to this matter as a true INDIAN. Hats off to Kalaam.

YSR really had a fortune, that is true. After he became CM our AP had good rains. So he didnt face farmers unsatisfaction or protest. But one thing to say, he is relatively better than CBN when we talk about farmers. Atleast he is aware what is the farmers' role and its importance. I am not hoping that YSR will do great to AP. He too just politician. Only bad in his life is his factionist background.

 

-M.V. Ramana Reddy
==================================================================
 

On 10/26/05, Venkat Sreeram <vsreeram@yahoo.com> wrote:

To be precise:

 

Roads indicate the culture of the country...

CBN regime did it. 

Infrastructure is the back bone of any developed or developing country …

It takes lot to do this ...

Lets see what kind of agricultural reforms  can be taken or being taken by current regime ? and to what extent these will be helpful to needy farmers.

 

 

Krishna.

Ramana Muppalla <muppallar@hotmail.com> wrote:

My take:


In the current times, any leadership is measured by the amount of structural
and economic reforms that a government can do in its term. In this aspect,
CBN is one of the most successfull leaders of India and AP. Reforms create
wealth and wealthy people.That in turn converts into investments and leads
to jobs creation which reduces poverty.This is a proven theory in India
since 1995. He was able to start engine of growth.

CBN's achievements:
1) Ernest efforts to make government small and smart.
2) Computerization of Government services
3) Investment on infrastructure
4) Structural and financial reforms
5) Privitization and closing down of loss making industures.

Major failures:
1) Buckling under political and NGOs pressure, he did not implement APVAN
program. Had this been implemented, it would have brought lot of investments
into AP. We missed the permanent smart and small governement.
2) Not bold enough to do agricultural reforms by industrializing the rural
areas.
3) There was still high taxation. If he was able to reduce taxes,
investments would have been more than what he achieved.

There was also an element of bad luck with two successive years of drought
conditions in many parts of the state.

It is too early to say anything about YSR. He and his govenment hasn't done
a single significant reform. There is no major achievement from this
Government to name.He is increasing the Government that in turn is
increasing large scale corruption. This is not the modern day government.

-Ramana

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Polavaram Project - Pros & Cons...

what are the Pros & Cons about this project?.

Andhra Pradesh Breaking News
Polavaram gets Central clearance
Wednesday, October 26, 2005

The Centre gave environmental clearance to the long pending Polavaram
multi-purpose major irrigation (Indira Sagar) project. Work on the Rs
13,500 crores project began on Tuesday and the project is slated to be
completed in a span of 5 years. The project has been pending since 64
years. Announcing the clearance of the mega project which was held up
due to a High Court direction to the State government not to take up
the project till it acquired an environmental clearance, Chief Minister
Y.S. Rajasekhar Reddy described it as "major step" in providing
irrigation facilities to the farmers of the State.
"We are extremely happy that the Centre gave environmental clearance
to the Polavaram project. I thank AICC president Sonia Gandhi, Prime
Minister Manmohan Singh and compliment the minister for major
irrigation Ponnala Laxmaiah, advisor to the government Mallu Ravi and
others officials of irrigation department," the Chief Minister told
media persons.According to the Chief Minister, the Polavaram project
was first envisaged by Britishers in 1941 but due to various reasons it
could not be taken up. The Congress government decided to take up the
project, but some environmentalists approached the High Court stating
that the project had no environmental clearance. The High Court
directed the government not to take up the project till it received
environmental clearance.

Re: predictions!!

To be precise:

 

Roads indicate the culture of the country...

CBN regime did it. 

Infrastructure is the back bone of any developed or developing country …

It takes lot to do this ...

Lets see what kind of agricultural reforms  can be taken or being taken by current regime ? and to what extent these will be helpful to needy farmers.

 

 

Krishna.

Ramana Muppalla <muppallar@hotmail.com> wrote:

My take:


In the current times, any leadership is measured by the amount of structural
and economic reforms that a government can do in its term. In this aspect,
CBN is one of the most successfull leaders of India and AP. Reforms create
wealth and wealthy people.That in turn converts into investments and leads
to jobs creation which reduces poverty.This is a proven theory in India
since 1995. He was able to start engine of growth.

CBN's achievements:
1) Ernest efforts to make government small and smart.
2) Computerization of Government services
3) Investment on infrastructure
4) Structural and financial reforms
5) Privitization and closing down of loss making industures.

Major failures:
1) Buckling under political and NGOs pressure, he did not implement APVAN
program. Had this been implemented, it would have brought lot of investments
into AP. We missed the permanent smart and small governement.
2) Not bold enough to do agricultural reforms by industrializing the rural
areas.
3) There was still high taxation. If he was able to reduce taxes,
investments would have been more than what he achieved.

There was also an element of bad luck with two successive years of drought
conditions in many parts of the state.

It is too early to say anything about YSR. He and his govenment hasn't done
a single significant reform. There is no major achievement from this
Government to name.He is increasing the Government that in turn is
increasing large scale corruption. This is not the modern day government.

-Ramana

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Re: predictions!!

My take:

In the current times, any leadership is measured by the amount of structural
and economic reforms that a government can do in its term. In this aspect,
CBN is one of the most successfull leaders of India and AP. Reforms create
wealth and wealthy people.That in turn converts into investments and leads
to jobs creation which reduces poverty.This is a proven theory in India
since 1995. He was able to start engine of growth.

CBN's achievements:
1) Ernest efforts to make government small and smart.
2) Computerization of Government services
3) Investment on infrastructure
4) Structural and financial reforms
5) Privitization and closing down of loss making industures.

Major failures:
1) Buckling under political and NGOs pressure, he did not implement APVAN
program. Had this been implemented, it would have brought lot of investments
into AP. We missed the permanent smart and small governement.
2) Not bold enough to do agricultural reforms by industrializing the rural
areas.
3) There was still high taxation. If he was able to reduce taxes,
investments would have been more than what he achieved.

There was also an element of bad luck with two successive years of drought
conditions in many parts of the state.

It is too early to say anything about YSR. He and his govenment hasn't done
a single significant reform. There is no major achievement from this
Government to name.He is increasing the Government that in turn is
increasing large scale corruption. This is not the modern day government.

-Ramana

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Re: predictions!!

Let me take a stab at it (Ignore the pun please)...

CBN gave priority to Roads, S&T, but not agriculture and rural
development:

This is a classic chicken and egg problem. Let us say, you are made
responsible for a pot of money and asked to perform. You have two
concerns, how best to use the money and how to grow the pot size down
the road.

Let us take the 1st concern, How best to use the money?

Depending on how best you understand the needs in a total context you
will do this. Identifying one sector or set of issues will not work
ofcourse. Given the context, CBN and team thought, by improving the
infrastructure, the money will be well spent. This is the so called
trickle down economics in a nutshell. Having spent the money that way,
I am sure good came out of that. Unfortunately, anything that is going
to benifit over a time, takes time for everyone to see the results.
Soil mapping, Developing methodologies for crop rotation, developing
the infrastructure to limit the role of middle men in marketing the
farm produce, eSeva, Roads linking towns and cities all fall into this
category. All of these are aimed at making sure the form sector
stabilizes and be more effective, governace becomes more transparent.

He has developed the "platform" if you will, which will be the
playground for future development activities. This is not to say that
he should ignore the immediate need to farmers/people. I do not think
they ignored. It is only the perception, and unfortunate one at that.
Should he have done more, of course yes. But, be sympathetic to the
need for balance.

The second concern is, how to increase the pot size?

By having the capacity to generate more growth, the state is bound to
have more funds at its disposal for future activities. So, always have
the vision of increasing the size of the pie so all get bigger pieces.
Having good infrastructure, leads to such dynamics and we all will see
the benefits sooner or later.

The bottom line is, I do not say what they did is without a plan or
misguided. They did under a context and it may not have helped him
politically, but if you stop and think, you will appreciate the
strength of those plans.

The easy answer for anyone to say is, do both! How you can do both to
the extent you would like to do, given the pot size? That is the
challenge!

Regards,
Chandu

Re: Administrivia...

I totally agree with Chandu, this is a discussion forum not a political forum.  Intellectual people are using this forum for discussions  on what's good or bad ? and how we can contribute to improve?

 

 

Krishha.

Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

First of all, let me express my appreciation to all of you for making
AndhraOne a stronger forum day by day. I am convinced that this is an
effective medium to learn about, and discuss our ideas. I hope you
agree with me. I am sure our members are very learned, talented, and
serious in expressing their views. I congratulate all of you for
sharing, reading, and pondering over how best to tackle some of the
knotty issues that we need to master to better achieve development
goals of Andhra Pradesh.

As AndhraOne is increasing in size by leaps and bounds, I thought I
should reiterate the best practices that work in a Public Forum like
this one.

1. Please refrain from using any remarks that may be (perceived as)
insulting. There is absolutely no need to insult anyone, let it be our
own members or the subjects that are referred to in our discussions,
like say, politicians.

Saying so and so is the best/worst will not make our point any
stronger. It will only evoke stronger emotions and in any emotionally
charged context we lose the strength of our arguments.

2. Obviously, we need to be sensitive to the fact that we are not
praising/ criticising a politician as an individual but the policies
and acts they come to personify. Please check your words to imply this.

3. When you need to argue for/against a particular politician/his
philosophy/his party's philosophy, please do so. Infact that is what we
should be discussing here so we can generate a consensus on what works
and what does not. Please apply the above suggestions.

4. Always try to give suggestions and why you think your suggestions
are better (alternatives). The model I generally use in any discussion
is, trying to answer the "Why?" part of the issue at hand. Instead of
simply saying, X is doing something wrong, I try to say why I think it
is wrong. This, I think, will open up the discussion and we all will
have a better understanding of the issue.

Please feel free to add your best practices to this.
Let us all share and discuss our ideas in an "open" way.

Regards,
Chandu

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Re: predictions!!

Dear Kalyan,

There must have been some misuse of funds. This is a problem inherent with indian politics. The cost of running as a candidate is quite high (in indian standards) and very few people contribute to their funds (unlike American system). So, the lower cadre people tend to misuse the funds in any given scheme. I am most interested in the visionary aspects and accountability of any government. It should not run on emotional issues.

Comment about CBN's neglect on Irrigation: Here is the problem. The problem is not in the production of major items like rice, cotton and chillis. The problem is in getting the right price for these items in right time. So, CBN tried to save the farmers by buying as much and at the prices that he can. Remember, Indian govt bought so much that they started to give rice as remuneration to people. So, increasing the area over which you irrigate is not the problem. The production of consummable foods such as vegetables, fruits require that we have good storage, distribution systems. That is where CBN introduced raitu bazaar and started to connect places for distribution.

Regarding his investments into irrigation projects (required to supply water): He allocated about $2000 crores and the govt could only spend 1000 crores through proper procedures. Congress started spending at much higher rate due to handing mobilization funds. This is a wrong practice. I can explain even more but i will leave this to a later time. Water and irrigation has become more of a delicate and emotional issue rather than strategic issue. One must take concrete steps rather than hasty undertakings. One can do more harm than good.

Regarding Paritala Ravi issue: Before we say anything, everyone should condemn the killing. That is what the govt. should do also. As far as CBN's handling of Ravi is concerned - I do not know the details of Ravi's involvement in land grabbing. As far as i know, he did not do anything in Vizag.

Mahendra K. Sunkara, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Chemical Engineering
http://www.cvd.louisville.edu
University of Louisville
Louisville, KY 40292 (use 40208 for fedex)
(502) 852-1558(ph)
(502) 852-6355(fax)
502-457-4178(cell)
>>> kalyan.indian@gmail.com 10/25/05 12:48 PM >>>

Hi mahendra gaaru,
i agree with u r arguement on pass
port issue of one of our member. But i dont agree 100% with u r
version on CBN rule.Chandra babu naidu gave prority to roads, science
and technology but not for agriculture and rural development. TDP
cadre misused janmabhoomi funds in large extent and diverted that
funds to thier party development . Both chandra babu and ysr are
failing to curb land maafia in hyderabad. CBN donated crores of
valuable land to film city and L&t
constructions by misusing his power. He act as a spectator by
witnessing paritala atrocities in rayalaseema and in hyderabad .

Re: Does India need nuclear alliance with US?

i think, we doesn't ned to join nuclear alliance under america's storm
strooping leadership. Already our govt take hasty diplomatic decision
to vote against Iran in IAEA.
Americans who are cautious abt islamic
terorists are unable to extend their full support to india to catch our
most wanted criminal
DAWOOD IBRAHIM .First indian govt should concentrate on america's
support to catch global terrorists include kashmir terrorists and
dawood and co rather than to join in america's dictatorial alliance.
America's domination over Iraq results bloody violence in iraq. we
shouldn't encourage america's unnecesary role over international
diplomatic relations among various nations like afhan, iraq, vietnam,
korea and ukraine. Already america suceeded in ukraine by encouraging
orange revolution and to place yuschenko as president.
we should be independent in diplomatic relations but not to act as a
blind under the shadow of america.

Re: predictions!!

Hi mahendra gaaru,
i agree with u r arguement on pass
port issue of one of our member. But i dont agree 100% with u r
version on CBN rule.Chandra babu naidu gave prority to roads, science
and technology but not for agriculture and rural development. TDP
cadre misused janmabhoomi funds in large extent and diverted that
funds to thier party development . Both chandra babu and ysr are
failing to curb land maafia in hyderabad. CBN donated crores of
valuable land to film city and L&t
constructions by misusing his power. He act as a spectator by
witnessing paritala atrocities in rayalaseema and in hyderabad .

Does India need nuclear alliance with US?

I was reading this article in rediff.com prompted me to start this new
topic of discussion.
Why all this urgency all of sudden?
What prompted US to incline towards India for this?
Since when China, Pakistan and Saudi has become axis of evil to US?

Krishna.

Advice from a farmer...

• Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.
• Keep skunks and bankers and lawyers at a distance.
• Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
• A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.
• Words that soak into your ears are whispered...not yelled.
• Meanness don't jest' happen overnight.
• Forgive your enemies. It messes up their heads.
• Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.
• It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.
• You cannot unsay a cruel word.
• Every path has a few puddles.
• When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.
• The best? sermons are lived, not preached.
• Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna happen anyway.
• Don't judge folks by their relatives.
• Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.
• Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't botherin' you none.
• Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
• If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.
• Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got.
• The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.
• Always drink upstream from the herd.
• Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.
• Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.
• If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.
• Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

--
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http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

Administrivia...

Dear Friends,

First of all, let me express my appreciation to all of you for making
AndhraOne a stronger forum day by day. I am convinced that this is an
effective medium to learn about, and discuss our ideas. I hope you
agree with me. I am sure our members are very learned, talented, and
serious in expressing their views. I congratulate all of you for
sharing, reading, and pondering over how best to tackle some of the
knotty issues that we need to master to better achieve development
goals of Andhra Pradesh.

As AndhraOne is increasing in size by leaps and bounds, I thought I
should reiterate the best practices that work in a Public Forum like
this one.

1. Please refrain from using any remarks that may be (perceived as)
insulting. There is absolutely no need to insult anyone, let it be our
own members or the subjects that are referred to in our discussions,
like say, politicians.

Saying so and so is the best/worst will not make our point any
stronger. It will only evoke stronger emotions and in any emotionally
charged context we lose the strength of our arguments.

2. Obviously, we need to be sensitive to the fact that we are not
praising/ criticising a politician as an individual but the policies
and acts they come to personify. Please check your words to imply this.

3. When you need to argue for/against a particular politician/his
philosophy/his party's philosophy, please do so. Infact that is what we
should be discussing here so we can generate a consensus on what works
and what does not. Please apply the above suggestions.

4. Always try to give suggestions and why you think your suggestions
are better (alternatives). The model I generally use in any discussion
is, trying to answer the "Why?" part of the issue at hand. Instead of
simply saying, X is doing something wrong, I try to say why I think it
is wrong. This, I think, will open up the discussion and we all will
have a better understanding of the issue.

Please feel free to add your best practices to this.
Let us all share and discuss our ideas in an "open" way.

Regards,
Chandu

Re: predictions!!

Hi Mahendra,
I strongly agree with you.
Sitaram

Mahendra K Sunkara writes:

>
> It is important to have all facts when commenting on somethings like this. The experience regarding passports posted by somebody here seems to be a recent one. Did they have a similar experience during CBN's rule? Did anybody try to participate in the Janmabhoomi programme to construct something for your villages. If you did then you would have realized how efficient the CBN's rule was.
>
> CBN's investments are quite evident throughout the state. This is similar to uneducated people talking about CBN - saying that roads do not feed. Everything that YSR's government is enjoying is what CBN's govt has done - project reports, electrical and roads infrastructure, e-administration of the govt., etc.
>
> I must advise people to have all the facts and do not hint out corruption by CBN unless you have hard evidence. This is similar to loose mouths by uneducated and uninformed people in India talk about corruption by leaders and still accept them.
>
> Mahendra.
>
> Mahendra K. Sunkara, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Chemical Engineering
> http://www.cvd.louisville.edu
> University of Louisville
> Louisville, KY 40292 (use 40208 for fedex)
> (502) 852-1558(ph)
> (502) 852-6355(fax)
> 502-457-4178(cell)
>>>> sugguna@hotmail.com 10/24/05 9:05 AM >>>
>
>

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Re: predictions!!

It is important to have all facts when commenting on somethings like this. The experience regarding passports posted by somebody here seems to be a recent one. Did they have a similar experience during CBN's rule? Did anybody try to participate in the Janmabhoomi programme to construct something for your villages. If you did then you would have realized how efficient the CBN's rule was.

CBN's investments are quite evident throughout the state. This is similar to uneducated people talking about CBN - saying that roads do not feed. Everything that YSR's government is enjoying is what CBN's govt has done - project reports, electrical and roads infrastructure, e-administration of the govt., etc.

I must advise people to have all the facts and do not hint out corruption by CBN unless you have hard evidence. This is similar to loose mouths by uneducated and uninformed people in India talk about corruption by leaders and still accept them.

Mahendra.

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Congrats to TV9

HI,

 

              Yesterday,23 oct 05,Inaugaration compaign in TV9,Education......Primary Education,The fundamental right of every child got good response from all.In that Inaugaration all the major political leaders,experts and senior journalists participated and shared their ideas to develope the standards in the primary education.

 

The chiefminister's lecture,

          

               First the C.M of A.P Mr Y.S.Rajasekharareddy gave his speech about develope the primary education of our state.He promised to abate the child labour in ou state, and told with in 15 years we will achieve 100% literacy in our state, and Y.S.R. disputed to appoint the teachers in 1:9 ratio alleged by experts.

 

The education minister's lecture,

      

                 The education minister of A.P. Smt N.Rajyalakshmi told that The presant day educationsystem became commercial and it is tough to poor people to educate their children.She would take the necesary steps to produce the good standards in the Gvmt Primary schools,It can be possible inly by the commitment actions done by the teachers.and she gave valuable

Sriniraju's discourse,

 

           In his discourse Sriniraju,M.D. of iLabs told that With out produce the good standards in the primary education, We can not make goot skilled engineers.He told about 2050 India will have 350 millions of worked people,They will put the India in position of 3rd place in the world economy.

 

Chandrababunaidu's lecture,

 

        The opposition leader Chandrababunaidu told that with out education there is no future and requested to C.M. take the actions for quality education for the children.

 

         C.E.O. of tv9 Raviprakash,Loksatta leader Jayaprakash narayan and other senior jopurnalists were participated in this inaugaration and shared thier valuable idead about the PRIMARY EDUCATION in the A.P.

        This inaugaration was done from 8a.m to 8p.m and cretaed censation in the media.This type of compaigns will help to construct good society.Once again Hatsoff to tv9.

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Re: predictions!!

Hi Vamsi,

Dont you think it is too early to predict YSR or CNB's destiny in the
next elections?. Congress government in the state has not yet completed
even full two years. Unlike in the past (when congress was in power),
the present government headed by YSR has been cruising through with
less problems from groups or factions with in the party. With the
outcome from recently held Municipal elections, YSR looks like had
tightened his grip over government as well as party men. However,
nothing is a cake walk in politics. We need to wait and see how YSR's
poll promises are come true.

Re: predictions!!

I feel CBN is a great individual person but not a great leader, We can see lot of growth in his personal life (money wise between 2 to 3 thousand crores), any time I can say is he not a great leader and did nothing to the STATE when we compare with his personal life. We can not forget about the basic meaning of a leader, CAST IS a big issue and I don't want to include it here, I feel YSR knows alot about common man then CBN. If CBN spent everything on project regards of what he bought from the world bank & from Central, he can develop more projects in AP.

CBN has 100% decision making power when he was ruling, YSR do not have that. As long as we have the corruption, no mater who is the CM, improving the lifes of the common people is not possible, all this leaders are thinking about their party or themselfs, Its not a worth to talk about current leaders.

Just an example, recently my parents applied for the passports, some friends told me don't apply in the regular, you do not know when you will get the passports, then we went for the Tatkal services, we are supposed to pay extra 1000 rs and should get it in one week, for two passports we should spend 4000 Rs/.. believe me, we had to spend 12000 Rs- and lot of headache.

 

These are my two cents, may be for some people these two are great persons, when it comes to developement, the money CBN spent and results are not matching, YSR we have to wait and see, he is in que for a long time for this POST, may be he have some great ideas to develop the State, so far he is taking care of personal rivelary & about Telangana his movements are good, I am not sure where he is spending the money. Truely if he can complete the projects on Krishna & Godavari, it will be very helpfull to the state.

Regards,

Venkat.

 

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From:  "Kiran Gullapalli" <kirang@hotmail.com>
Reply-To:  AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
To:  AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: predictions!!
Date:  Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:16:26 -0400
>
>I fully support Damodar's observations...
>
>
>
>Kiran
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Damodar Veerareddy <vdamu2004@yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: predictions!!
>>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:50:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Both YSR and CBN are two great leaders. I feel they are very
>>efficient in developing our state. It takes time to really see them
>>implemented. We have to keep one thing in mind that it takes lot of
>>things to implement certain development activities and people have
>>very short memory. About casteism, it's all over our country and
>>not just AP. Infact, all over the world. It's diminishing with the
>>generations.
>>   What ever the creation is about these two leaders, one great
>>thing that is common between them is to keep the state united. I
>>really adore them for that.
>>About the current situation, it's too early to judge any government
>>in 2 years. People are watching every move that government makes.
>>The recent muncipal results are the mandate against TRS in
>>telangana and mostly due to very less time to judge on the
>>government  policies in Andhra.
>>Most of the policies that the current government is making were the
>>ones that Mr. Naidu implemented ones and they are now with a
>>different name.
>>I feel Mr. naidu, inorder to win the confidence of the people he
>>should continue to do what he is doing right now and also keep the
>>dirty coterie away from him.
>>
>>I agree with you that CONGRESS is dominated by REDDY's but TDP is
>>not a Kamma's party and was formed as the ANTI-CONGRESS party by
>>late NTR.
>>
>>I feel CBN will definately come back to power soon and I hope he
>>will realize the mistakes (if any?) he might have comitted
>>unknowingly.
>>
>>Keeping BJP away is a good political move though most of us don't
>>like it.
>>
>>These are my two cents and nothing personal. I regret for any hard
>>feelings.
>>
>>Damodar
>>
>>
>>"kalyan.indian@gmail.com" <kalyan.indian@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I think both chandra babu and ysr are inefficent to move our state
>>towards constructive development. we can be seen a rapid growth of
>>development in northern states. Narendra modi, responsible for the
>>genocide of tens of hundreds of people in gujarath, is a good
>>adminstrator comparing to our present cm and chandra babu.
>>Our leaders and govt are just witnessing the gujarath state
>>dominance over mineral resources in godavari basins.
>>Navin patnaik who assumed charges as a cm in 1999 taking
>>constructive
>>measures in administration by giving priority to rural development
>>and
>>agriculture.
>>The another worst thing in our state politics is role of
>>casteism.we
>>can be seen the kamma domination in tdp government and the same way
>>we
>>are witnessing reddy-converted christians domination over
>>state and all over indIa. Chandra babu who condemned the death of
>>Paritala ravi is unable to stop the violence and damage done by his
>>party cadre in all over state.They both are responsible for the
>>political violence on our stae. YSR's peace talks with naxals is
>>another example of our congress govt hasty decisions. Govt didnt
>>get
>>any profit from that talks but they raised the party cadre among
>>naxals
>>. The media gave a great priorty to the mudragada issue in these
>>6-7
>>days . Mudragada ,famous for umbrella poitics in our state , is
>>trying
>>to visualise his deeksha as a one man show and acting as a child in
>>mothers lap with his controversial demands.
>>
>
>

Re: predictions!!

I fully support Damodar's observations...

Kiran

>From: Damodar Veerareddy <vdamu2004@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: predictions!!
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:50:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Both YSR and CBN are two great leaders. I feel they are very efficient in
>developing our state. It takes time to really see them implemented. We have
>to keep one thing in mind that it takes lot of things to implement certain
>development activities and people have very short memory. About casteism,
>it's all over our country and not just AP. Infact, all over the world. It's
>diminishing with the generations.
> What ever the creation is about these two leaders, one great thing that
>is common between them is to keep the state united. I really adore them for
>that.
>About the current situation, it's too early to judge any government in 2
>years. People are watching every move that government makes. The recent
>muncipal results are the mandate against TRS in telangana and mostly due to
>very less time to judge on the government policies in Andhra.
>Most of the policies that the current government is making were the ones
>that Mr. Naidu implemented ones and they are now with a different name.
>I feel Mr. naidu, inorder to win the confidence of the people he should
>continue to do what he is doing right now and also keep the dirty coterie
>away from him.
>
>I agree with you that CONGRESS is dominated by REDDY's but TDP is not a
>Kamma's party and was formed as the ANTI-CONGRESS party by late NTR.
>
>I feel CBN will definately come back to power soon and I hope he will
>realize the mistakes (if any?) he might have comitted unknowingly.
>
>Keeping BJP away is a good political move though most of us don't like it.
>
>These are my two cents and nothing personal. I regret for any hard
>feelings.
>
>Damodar
>
>
>"kalyan.indian@gmail.com" <kalyan.indian@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I think both chandra babu and ysr are inefficent to move our state
>towards constructive development. we can be seen a rapid growth of
>development in northern states. Narendra modi, responsible for the
>genocide of tens of hundreds of people in gujarath, is a good
>adminstrator comparing to our present cm and chandra babu.
>Our leaders and govt are just witnessing the gujarath state
>dominance over mineral resources in godavari basins.
>Navin patnaik who assumed charges as a cm in 1999 taking constructive
>measures in administration by giving priority to rural development and
>agriculture.
>The another worst thing in our state politics is role of casteism.we
>can be seen the kamma domination in tdp government and the same way we
>are witnessing reddy-converted christians domination over
>state and all over indIa. Chandra babu who condemned the death of
>Paritala ravi is unable to stop the violence and damage done by his
>party cadre in all over state.They both are responsible for the
>political violence on our stae. YSR's peace talks with naxals is
>another example of our congress govt hasty decisions. Govt didnt get
>any profit from that talks but they raised the party cadre among naxals
>. The media gave a great priorty to the mudragada issue in these 6-7
>days . Mudragada ,famous for umbrella poitics in our state , is trying
>to visualise his deeksha as a one man show and acting as a child in
>mothers lap with his controversial demands.
>

Re: predictions!!

Both YSR and CBN are two great leaders. I feel they are very efficient in developing our state. It takes time to really see them implemented. We have to keep one thing in mind that it takes lot of things to implement certain development activities and people have very short memory. About casteism, it's all over our country and not just AP. Infact, all over the world. It's diminishing with the generations.

  What ever the creation is about these two leaders, one great thing that is common between them is to keep the state united. I really adore them for that.

About the current situation, it's too early to judge any government in 2 years. People are watching every move that government makes. The recent muncipal results are the mandate against TRS in telangana and mostly due to very less time to judge on the government  policies in Andhra.

Most of the policies that the current government is making were the ones that Mr. Naidu implemented ones and they are now with a different name.

I feel Mr. naidu, inorder to win the confidence of the people he should continue to do what he is doing right now and also keep the dirty coterie away from him.

 

I agree with you that CONGRESS is dominated by REDDY's but TDP is not a Kamma's party and was formed as the ANTI-CONGRESS party by late NTR.

 

I feel CBN will definately come back to power soon and I hope he will realize the mistakes (if any?) he might have comitted unknowingly.

 

Keeping BJP away is a good political move though most of us don't like it.

 

These are my two cents and nothing personal. I regret for any hard feelings.

 

Damodar

"kalyan.indian@gmail.com" <kalyan.indian@gmail.com> wrote:

I think both chandra babu and ysr are inefficent to move our state
towards constructive development. we can be seen a rapid growth of
development in northern states. Narendra modi, responsible for the
genocide of tens of hundreds of people in gujarath, is a good
adminstrator comparing to our present cm and chandra babu.
Our leaders and govt are just witnessing the gujarath state
dominance over mineral resources in godavari basins.
Navin patnaik who assumed charges as a cm in 1999 taking constructive
measures in administration by giving priority to rural development and
agriculture.
The another worst thing in our state politics is role of casteism.we
can be seen the kamma domination in tdp government and the same way we
are witnessing reddy-converted christians domination over
state and all over indIa. Chandra babu who condemned the death of
Paritala ravi is unable to stop the violence and damage done by his
party cadre in all over state.They both are responsible for the
political violence on our stae. YSR's peace talks with naxals is
another example of our congress govt hasty decisions. Govt didnt get
any profit from that talks but they raised the party cadre among naxals
. The media gave a great priorty to the mudragada issue in these 6-7
days . Mudragada ,famous for umbrella poitics in our state , is trying
to visualise his deeksha as a one man show and acting as a child in
mothers lap with his controversial demands.

Re: predictions!!

Wow mind blowing answer.. kallu teripinchavu guru...

 

Thanks

Praveen

ramesh ramesh <redrouthu_79@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Praveen,

    State is not an one man/party's army. And we can't expect the good results by changing a person or a party who or which is ruling us.

 

    There are many flaws in TDP as well as in Congress ruling. Untill unless the people gets individuality in their thinking and awareness to distinct what is good & Bad. No party or person can do better for Andhra Pradesh.

 

    Instead of expecting good change in the ruling parties or politicians. We have to change ourself & environment around us. When people are good at their judgement no political party will dare to cheat the people with their filthy promises.

 

Regards,

Ramesh   

Praveen Gullapalli <gpraveeng@yahoo.com> wrote:

okka mukka lo cheppalante...

 

Okadu athivrushti Inkokadu anavrushti...Anduke letz talk about moodo party...

 

Adi evaru ayithe baguntundi???

 

May be Venkaiah Naidu...

 

Bye

GP

 

Venkat Atluri <venkat.atluri@gmail.com> wrote:

Chandu, I agree with you and I think the state is suffering without a doubt.

YSR & Co:

One day they invited naxals to the meeting with no proposal or plan and the next thing we know, they impose the ban back. They want to award huge contracts without proper tender practices and the courts have to intervene. The whole election process including making new voter lists, nomination circus etc seems a complete sham!! Promises are aplenty and practicality is a mirage yet. Law and order is gone awry. Farmers and labor are given a deaf ear.

Babu & Co:

To tell the truth, the role of TDP including its president as oppostion is appalling. Their approach and strategy seem to be changing everyday and in every direction. They should have pressed the govt for what it promised and insisted on the allocation/implementation issue by issue. Their stand and views could have been transparent and equivocal on major issues in assembly as well as in media. The efficient administrator/politician in Babu seems resting till the next election and that won't help him a bit. He should master the art of delegation, team building and mass mobilizing. He should lead the party from the front and establish good opposition to ensue no more bad/negative is done to the common man.  

 

Common man is struggling as mother nature is testing him with floods, cyclones, heavy rains etc. Increased petrol prices and reducing law and order, the state is soon marching towards the Lalu's land of politricks. I think the govt should focus on improving the situation of the state in every front and the opposition should ensure that the govt will not take any backword steps. As you said, the good things achieved for the state should not be squandered away irrespective of Congress or TDP rule.

 

Regards

Venkat

 

On 10/19/05, Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Vamsi,

I do not call it an era yet.

However, this is what I think is the story so far...

YSR and Co. promised a great deal to the people. Promising part is always easy. Pains are in delivery! Let us see what the team can deliver. So far there is no tangible deliveries.
Still, they are successful in creating the cloud of expectations and they keep promising that better things are on their way. Whether he will run out promises or people will run out of patience is the question. Does anyone have a count of what it takes to deliver all that he conceived/promised?

Divide and rule, wear the color to suit the area/day/time seems to be Cong.'s mantra. The case in point is, they are supporting separate Telangana idea, while supporting Samaikhyandhra. At the same time they are also fighting for remedies to Rayalaseema! So what is that they are supporting? Beats me!!

They are using all scare tactics to keep candidates from other parties away from elections. Like in Sisupala's case, there is always a threshold. We may not have Krishna now, but people can jump in and play that role when necessary - in political sense that is.

As TDP President correctly observed recently, YSR and Co are racing to beat Bihar! In what is everyone's guess.

You asked about the chances in next elections - Next assembly elections are faaaar away. I may be biased, but let us watch the mythical "Sisupala" counter.  Didn't it take Krishna some time? So  it will take  some time for people too.

Now, TDP's primary responsibility is to play the "constructive opposition" role. We are making sure that the good things that were achieved are not squandered away. Bring the current administrations follies to the public. Of course, make sure that the party becomes stronger with all the lessons learnt.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Chandu

On 10/18/05, vamsi anne <vamsikrishna.anne@gmail.com > wrote:

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

--
Sambasiva Rao Chandu
http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

---

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Re: predictions!!

Hi Kalyan,
i partly agrre with what you said. The first part that you mentioned about
the lack of constructive developement in both the govts is 100% correct.But
regarding castism i dont think there is kamma's domination in TDP regime but
now i am clearly observing that trend. Though i am not positive there would
be around 10 ministers in TDP govt were from reddy caste and only 5 members
including babu were from kamma caste.How many reddy's were in the present
govt? and how many kamma's? and how many BC's? i think only one guy from
krishna dist is kamma. I never ever seen such disparity in TDP government.
cheers
sitaram

Re: predictions!!

hmm Chandu garu,

meeru correct points observe chesaru...naming YSR's reign as 'sisupala' rule matches exactly..

In the first 4 to 6 months of the cong. govt's rule i used to read about atleast 2 to 3 murders here and there in the state everyday..lookslike its already beaten bihar in this race....and i'm totally confused with the results of the latest muncipal elections..i jus cudnt understand how people favored congress inspite of all the incidents happened and the broken promise of major 'free power' drama.. Its pathetic to see TDP in such a dire state..as u said TDP should maintain a constructive role as an opposotion party in the state..lets hope for the good

cheers

 

On 20/10/05, Praveen Gullapalli <gpraveeng@yahoo.com> wrote:

okka mukka lo cheppalante...

 

Okadu athivrushti Inkokadu anavrushti...Anduke letz talk about moodo party...

 

Adi evaru ayithe baguntundi???

 

May be Venkaiah Naidu...

 

Bye

GP

 

Venkat Atluri <venkat.atluri@gmail.com> wrote:

Chandu, I agree with you and I think the state is suffering without a doubt.

YSR & Co:

One day they invited naxals to the meeting with no proposal or plan and the next thing we know, they impose the ban back. They want to award huge contracts without proper tender practices and the courts have to intervene. The whole election process including making new voter lists, nomination circus etc seems a complete sham!! Promises are aplenty and practicality is a mirage yet. Law and order is gone awry. Farmers and labor are given a deaf ear.

Babu & Co:

To tell the truth, the role of TDP including its president as oppostion is appalling. Their approach and strategy seem to be changing everyday and in every direction. They should have pressed the govt for what it promised and insisted on the allocation/implementation issue by issue. Their stand and views could have been transparent and equivocal on major issues in assembly as well as in media. The efficient administrator/politician in Babu seems resting till the next election and that won't help him a bit. He should master the art of delegation, team building and mass mobilizing. He should lead the party from the front and establish good opposition to ensue no more bad/negative is done to the common man.  

 

Common man is struggling as mother nature is testing him with floods, cyclones, heavy rains etc. Increased petrol prices and reducing law and order, the state is soon marching towards the Lalu's land of politricks. I think the govt should focus on improving the situation of the state in every front and the opposition should ensure that the govt will not take any backword steps. As you said, the good things achieved for the state should not be squandered away irrespective of Congress or TDP rule.

 

Regards

Venkat

 

On 10/19/05, Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com > wrote:

Hi Vamsi,

I do not call it an era yet.

However, this is what I think is the story so far...

YSR and Co. promised a great deal to the people. Promising part is always easy. Pains are in delivery! Let us see what the team can deliver. So far there is no tangible deliveries.
Still, they are successful in creating the cloud of expectations and they keep promising that better things are on their way. Whether he will run out promises or people will run out of patience is the question. Does anyone have a count of what it takes to deliver all that he conceived/promised?

Divide and rule, wear the color to suit the area/day/time seems to be Cong.'s mantra. The case in point is, they are supporting separate Telangana idea, while supporting Samaikhyandhra. At the same time they are also fighting for remedies to Rayalaseema! So what is that they are supporting? Beats me!!

They are using all scare tactics to keep candidates from other parties away from elections. Like in Sisupala's case, there is always a threshold. We may not have Krishna now, but people can jump in and play that role when necessary - in political sense that is.

As TDP President correctly observed recently, YSR and Co are racing to beat Bihar! In what is everyone's guess.

You asked about the chances in next elections - Next assembly elections are faaaar away. I may be biased, but let us watch the mythical "Sisupala" counter.  Didn't it take Krishna some time? So  it will take  some time for people too.

Now, TDP's primary responsibility is to play the "constructive opposition" role. We are making sure that the good things that were achieved are not squandered away. Bring the current administrations follies to the public. Of course, make sure that the party becomes stronger with all the lessons learnt.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Chandu

On 10/18/05, vamsi anne <vamsikrishna.anne@gmail.com > wrote:

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

--
Sambasiva Rao Chandu
http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

--
Poorna c.yalamanchili
MEM,MBA(Uni.of Western Syd)
Australia

Re: predictions!!

Hi Praveen,

    State is not an one man/party's army. And we can't expect the good results by changing a person or a party who or which is ruling us.

 

    There are many flaws in TDP as well as in Congress ruling. Untill unless the people gets individuality in their thinking and awareness to distinct what is good & Bad. No party or person can do better for Andhra Pradesh.

 

    Instead of expecting good change in the ruling parties or politicians. We have to change ourself & environment around us. When people are good at their judgement no political party will dare to cheat the people with their filthy promises.

 

Regards,

Ramesh   

Praveen Gullapalli <gpraveeng@yahoo.com> wrote:

okka mukka lo cheppalante...

 

Okadu athivrushti Inkokadu anavrushti...Anduke letz talk about moodo party...

 

Adi evaru ayithe baguntundi???

 

May be Venkaiah Naidu...

 

Bye

GP

 

Venkat Atluri <venkat.atluri@gmail.com> wrote:

Chandu, I agree with you and I think the state is suffering without a doubt.

YSR & Co:

One day they invited naxals to the meeting with no proposal or plan and the next thing we know, they impose the ban back. They want to award huge contracts without proper tender practices and the courts have to intervene. The whole election process including making new voter lists, nomination circus etc seems a complete sham!! Promises are aplenty and practicality is a mirage yet. Law and order is gone awry. Farmers and labor are given a deaf ear.

Babu & Co:

To tell the truth, the role of TDP including its president as oppostion is appalling. Their approach and strategy seem to be changing everyday and in every direction. They should have pressed the govt for what it promised and insisted on the allocation/implementation issue by issue. Their stand and views could have been transparent and equivocal on major issues in assembly as well as in media. The efficient administrator/politician in Babu seems resting till the next election and that won't help him a bit. He should master the art of delegation, team building and mass mobilizing. He should lead the party from the front and establish good opposition to ensue no more bad/negative is done to the common man.  

 

Common man is struggling as mother nature is testing him with floods, cyclones, heavy rains etc. Increased petrol prices and reducing law and order, the state is soon marching towards the Lalu's land of politricks. I think the govt should focus on improving the situation of the state in every front and the opposition should ensure that the govt will not take any backword steps. As you said, the good things achieved for the state should not be squandered away irrespective of Congress or TDP rule.

 

Regards

Venkat

 

On 10/19/05, Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Vamsi,

I do not call it an era yet.

However, this is what I think is the story so far...

YSR and Co. promised a great deal to the people. Promising part is always easy. Pains are in delivery! Let us see what the team can deliver. So far there is no tangible deliveries.
Still, they are successful in creating the cloud of expectations and they keep promising that better things are on their way. Whether he will run out promises or people will run out of patience is the question. Does anyone have a count of what it takes to deliver all that he conceived/promised?

Divide and rule, wear the color to suit the area/day/time seems to be Cong.'s mantra. The case in point is, they are supporting separate Telangana idea, while supporting Samaikhyandhra. At the same time they are also fighting for remedies to Rayalaseema! So what is that they are supporting? Beats me!!

They are using all scare tactics to keep candidates from other parties away from elections. Like in Sisupala's case, there is always a threshold. We may not have Krishna now, but people can jump in and play that role when necessary - in political sense that is.

As TDP President correctly observed recently, YSR and Co are racing to beat Bihar! In what is everyone's guess.

You asked about the chances in next elections - Next assembly elections are faaaar away. I may be biased, but let us watch the mythical "Sisupala" counter.  Didn't it take Krishna some time? So  it will take  some time for people too.

Now, TDP's primary responsibility is to play the "constructive opposition" role. We are making sure that the good things that were achieved are not squandered away. Bring the current administrations follies to the public. Of course, make sure that the party becomes stronger with all the lessons learnt.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Chandu

On 10/18/05, vamsi anne <vamsikrishna.anne@gmail.com > wrote:

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

--
Sambasiva Rao Chandu
http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

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Re: predictions!!

I think both chandra babu and ysr are inefficent to move our state
towards constructive development. we can be seen a rapid growth of
development in northern states. Narendra modi, responsible for the
genocide of tens of hundreds of people in gujarath, is a good
adminstrator comparing to our present cm and chandra babu.
Our leaders and govt are just witnessing the gujarath state
dominance over mineral resources in godavari basins.
Navin patnaik who assumed charges as a cm in 1999 taking constructive
measures in administration by giving priority to rural development and
agriculture.
The another worst thing in our state politics is role of casteism.we
can be seen the kamma domination in tdp government and the same way we
are witnessing reddy-converted christians domination over
state and all over indIa. Chandra babu who condemned the death of
Paritala ravi is unable to stop the violence and damage done by his
party cadre in all over state.They both are responsible for the
political violence on our stae. YSR's peace talks with naxals is
another example of our congress govt hasty decisions. Govt didnt get
any profit from that talks but they raised the party cadre among naxals
. The media gave a great priorty to the mudragada issue in these 6-7
days . Mudragada ,famous for umbrella poitics in our state , is trying
to visualise his deeksha as a one man show and acting as a child in
mothers lap with his controversial demands.

Re: predictions!!

okka mukka lo cheppalante...

 

Okadu athivrushti Inkokadu anavrushti...Anduke letz talk about moodo party...

 

Adi evaru ayithe baguntundi???

 

May be Venkaiah Naidu...

 

Bye

GP

 

Venkat Atluri <venkat.atluri@gmail.com> wrote:

Chandu, I agree with you and I think the state is suffering without a doubt.

YSR & Co:

One day they invited naxals to the meeting with no proposal or plan and the next thing we know, they impose the ban back. They want to award huge contracts without proper tender practices and the courts have to intervene. The whole election process including making new voter lists, nomination circus etc seems a complete sham!! Promises are aplenty and practicality is a mirage yet. Law and order is gone awry. Farmers and labor are given a deaf ear.

Babu & Co:

To tell the truth, the role of TDP including its president as oppostion is appalling. Their approach and strategy seem to be changing everyday and in every direction. They should have pressed the govt for what it promised and insisted on the allocation/implementation issue by issue. Their stand and views could have been transparent and equivocal on major issues in assembly as well as in media. The efficient administrator/politician in Babu seems resting till the next election and that won't help him a bit. He should master the art of delegation, team building and mass mobilizing. He should lead the party from the front and establish good opposition to ensue no more bad/negative is done to the common man.  

 

Common man is struggling as mother nature is testing him with floods, cyclones, heavy rains etc. Increased petrol prices and reducing law and order, the state is soon marching towards the Lalu's land of politricks. I think the govt should focus on improving the situation of the state in every front and the opposition should ensure that the govt will not take any backword steps. As you said, the good things achieved for the state should not be squandered away irrespective of Congress or TDP rule.

 

Regards

Venkat

 

On 10/19/05, Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Vamsi,

I do not call it an era yet.

However, this is what I think is the story so far...

YSR and Co. promised a great deal to the people. Promising part is always easy. Pains are in delivery! Let us see what the team can deliver. So far there is no tangible deliveries.
Still, they are successful in creating the cloud of expectations and they keep promising that better things are on their way. Whether he will run out promises or people will run out of patience is the question. Does anyone have a count of what it takes to deliver all that he conceived/promised?

Divide and rule, wear the color to suit the area/day/time seems to be Cong.'s mantra. The case in point is, they are supporting separate Telangana idea, while supporting Samaikhyandhra. At the same time they are also fighting for remedies to Rayalaseema! So what is that they are supporting? Beats me!!

They are using all scare tactics to keep candidates from other parties away from elections. Like in Sisupala's case, there is always a threshold. We may not have Krishna now, but people can jump in and play that role when necessary - in political sense that is.

As TDP President correctly observed recently, YSR and Co are racing to beat Bihar! In what is everyone's guess.

You asked about the chances in next elections - Next assembly elections are faaaar away. I may be biased, but let us watch the mythical "Sisupala" counter.  Didn't it take Krishna some time? So  it will take  some time for people too.

Now, TDP's primary responsibility is to play the "constructive opposition" role. We are making sure that the good things that were achieved are not squandered away. Bring the current administrations follies to the public. Of course, make sure that the party becomes stronger with all the lessons learnt.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Chandu

On 10/18/05, vamsi anne <vamsikrishna.anne@gmail.com > wrote:

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

--
Sambasiva Rao Chandu
http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

Re: predictions!!

Chandu, I agree with you and I think the state is suffering without a doubt.

YSR & Co:

One day they invited naxals to the meeting with no proposal or plan and the next thing we know, they impose the ban back. They want to award huge contracts without proper tender practices and the courts have to intervene. The whole election process including making new voter lists, nomination circus etc seems a complete sham!! Promises are aplenty and practicality is a mirage yet. Law and order is gone awry. Farmers and labor are given a deaf ear.

Babu & Co:

To tell the truth, the role of TDP including its president as oppostion is appalling. Their approach and strategy seem to be changing everyday and in every direction. They should have pressed the govt for what it promised and insisted on the allocation/implementation issue by issue. Their stand and views could have been transparent and equivocal on major issues in assembly as well as in media. The efficient administrator/politician in Babu seems resting till the next election and that won't help him a bit. He should master the art of delegation, team building and mass mobilizing. He should lead the party from the front and establish good opposition to ensue no more bad/negative is done to the common man.  

 

Common man is struggling as mother nature is testing him with floods, cyclones, heavy rains etc. Increased petrol prices and reducing law and order, the state is soon marching towards the Lalu's land of politricks. I think the govt should focus on improving the situation of the state in every front and the opposition should ensure that the govt will not take any backword steps. As you said, the good things achieved for the state should not be squandered away irrespective of Congress or TDP rule.

 

Regards

Venkat

 

On 10/19/05, Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Vamsi,

I do not call it an era yet.

However, this is what I think is the story so far...

YSR and Co. promised a great deal to the people. Promising part is always easy. Pains are in delivery! Let us see what the team can deliver. So far there is no tangible deliveries.
Still, they are successful in creating the cloud of expectations and they keep promising that better things are on their way. Whether he will run out promises or people will run out of patience is the question. Does anyone have a count of what it takes to deliver all that he conceived/promised?

Divide and rule, wear the color to suit the area/day/time seems to be Cong.'s mantra. The case in point is, they are supporting separate Telangana idea, while supporting Samaikhyandhra. At the same time they are also fighting for remedies to Rayalaseema! So what is that they are supporting? Beats me!!

They are using all scare tactics to keep candidates from other parties away from elections. Like in Sisupala's case, there is always a threshold. We may not have Krishna now, but people can jump in and play that role when necessary - in political sense that is.

As TDP President correctly observed recently, YSR and Co are racing to beat Bihar! In what is everyone's guess.

You asked about the chances in next elections - Next assembly elections are faaaar away. I may be biased, but let us watch the mythical "Sisupala" counter.  Didn't it take Krishna some time? So  it will take  some time for people too.

Now, TDP's primary responsibility is to play the "constructive opposition" role. We are making sure that the good things that were achieved are not squandered away. Bring the current administrations follies to the public. Of course, make sure that the party becomes stronger with all the lessons learnt.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Chandu

On 10/18/05, vamsi anne <vamsikrishna.anne@gmail.com > wrote:

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

--
Sambasiva Rao Chandu
http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

Re: predictions!!

Hi Vamsi,

I do not call it an era yet.

However, this is what I think is the story so far...

YSR and Co. promised a great deal to the people. Promising part is always easy. Pains are in delivery! Let us see what the team can deliver. So far there is no tangible deliveries.
Still, they are successful in creating the cloud of expectations and they keep promising that better things are on their way. Whether he will run out promises or people will run out of patience is the question. Does anyone have a count of what it takes to deliver all that he conceived/promised?

Divide and rule, wear the color to suit the area/day/time seems to be Cong.'s mantra. The case in point is, they are supporting separate Telangana idea, while supporting Samaikhyandhra. At the same time they are also fighting for remedies to Rayalaseema! So what is that they are supporting? Beats me!!

They are using all scare tactics to keep candidates from other parties away from elections. Like in Sisupala's case, there is always a threshold. We may not have Krishna now, but people can jump in and play that role when necessary - in political sense that is.

As TDP President correctly observed recently, YSR and Co are racing to beat Bihar! In what is everyone's guess.

You asked about the chances in next elections - Next assembly elections are faaaar away. I may be biased, but let us watch the mythical "Sisupala" counter.  Didn't it take Krishna some time? So  it will take  some time for people too.

Now, TDP's primary responsibility is to play the "constructive opposition" role. We are making sure that the good things that were achieved are not squandered away. Bring the current administrations follies to the public. Of course, make sure that the party becomes stronger with all the lessons learnt.

What do you all think?

Regards,
Chandu

On 10/18/05, vamsi anne <vamsikrishna.anne@gmail.com> wrote:

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

--
Sambasiva Rao Chandu
http://groups.google.com/group/AndhraOne

predictions!!

HI guys,

vamsi here.bit eager to collect everybodies opinions on YSR era in AP.
all of you are invited to share Pros and cons of YSR. chances to come
up in next elections. Babu's activities to face him.

try to make simple,fun and intelligent conversation.

Re: kalyan's suggestions for development of india

I offer my best wishes to Mr. Kalyan Chandra in his Indian Civil
Service examinations.
My understanding is that the Indian Civil Service (ICS) officers
implement policy and do not make policy. In a democracy, policies come
out of laws enacted by the parliament and the assemblies. Ministers and
elected members of these bodies pass laws. Ministers oversee the
development of policies, regulations, and rules in harmony with the
laws enacted. Of course, civil service officials assist in the
formulation of bills, policies, regulations, and rules. However, the
key function of ICS (IAS, IFS, IPS, etc.) officials is to implement the
laws, policies, regulations, and rules.
Consequently, the qualifications and competencies required of these
officials will be different from those of political leaders. The Senior
Executive Service (SES) in the US is somewhat similar to the ICS (or
IAS) in India. Selection to the SES is based on Executive Core
Qualifications (ECQ) as follows.
1. Leading Change,
2. Leading People,
3. Results Driven,
4. Business Acumen, and
5. Building Coalitions/Communications.
A detailed explanation of these ECQ's is given at
http://www.opm.gov/ses/ecq.asp.
I believe that aspirants to the Indian civil service can benefit by
taking a look at the ECQ's.

Re: Got Skype?

Rao garu:

I agree. I used it in the past to have discussions with my distance
students.

Vittal

----- Original Message -----
From: Chandu Sambasiva Rao <srchandu@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:36 pm
Subject: Got Skype?

>
> Friends,
>
> You must have heard of Skype. Skype, The New Standard In Free Internet
> Telephony and is an outstanding application of the VOIP (Voice Over
> Internet Protocol) technology. To use this useful tool, all we
> need is
> the Skype software, and a set of head phones.
>
> Step 1: Download Skype from http://www.skype.com/download/
> Step 2: Register an account for free with an easy to remember name
> fromwithin Skype.
> Step 3: Ask your friends (anywhere in the world) to download skype and
> register
> Step 4: Place a call via your computer.
>
> Thats it!
>
> I started using it and the sound is really crisp unlike anyother
> mediumwe use for voice.
>
> My Skype id is srchandu
>
> Regards,
> Chandu
>

Re: kalyan's suggestions for development of india

Good Krishna,

 

You agree with me.

 

Naidu. SS

Krishna Gavili <kgavili@yahoo.com> wrote:

(3) Govt should impose restrictions on the visa
pruposals of the
students from IIT"S IIM"s and prestigous medical
colleges inorder to
check the transfering of creativity wealth.


I disagree with you on this point as restrictions on
visas is not the way to check the transferring of
creativity of wealth.



--- Rama Chennupati wrote:

> We need to separate the law and order, and make it
> like a autonomous institute. No one should be above
> the law and concentrate more on controlling
> political violence.
>
> Mahendra K Sunkara wrote:
> First thing, we need to do is to abolish IAS/IPS
> type services. Govt. should not regulate anything
> and should only legislate.
>
>
>
> Mahendra K. Sunkara, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Chemical Engineering
> http://www.cvd.louisville.edu
> University of Louisville
> Louisville, KY 40292 (use 40208 for fedex)
> (502) 852-1558(ph)
> (502) 852-6355(fax)
> 502-457-4178(cell)
> >>> kalyan.indian@gmail.com 10/03/05 9:54 AM >>>
>
> 1) Govt should introduce electronic indian
> citizenship cards as like
> as atm cards to post there complaints in electronic
> complaints
> recievable cells.
>
>
> (2) President or governor should disqualify the mps
> or MLA 's if they
>
>
>
> failed to satisfy there voters in constituncies.
>
>
> (3) Govt should impose restrictions on the visa
> pruposals of the
> students from IIT"S IIM"s and prestigous medical
> colleges inorder to
> check the transfering of creativity wealth.
>
>
> (4) There should not be frequent transfers for ias
> and ips OFFICERS.
>
>
> (5) There should be decentralisation of
> administration in the state
> level and central level.
>
>
> (6) There should be proper guidelines for the duties
> of governer to
> avoid misusage of article 356.
>
>
> (7) Govt should introduce compulsory subjects of
> history and poltics
> irrespect of thier branches in graduation level for
> poltical awarenes
> among students.
>
>
> (8)Govt should give priority for the people in
> tribal and backword
> areas in the selection of police and army department
> inorder to
> control the recruitment of terrorist and naxal
> groups.
>
>
> (9) Govt should allocate more resources on
> agriculture and
> bio-technology to improve agricultural productivity.
>
>
> (10) Govt should encourage loan facilities in rural
> areas to avoid
> migrations to urban areas.
>
>
> kalyan chandra' s profile :
> hi iam kalyan chandra . Iam preparing for indian
> civil services . I
> have already started a website and group for indian
> civil services
> aspirants. they are
> www.civilservice.tk
>
>
> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indianservices
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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