Because of vote-related politics, these things are happening. So
politicians have a role in appeasing minority communities.
Regarding our temples in the USA, it is not the right comparison. The
correct comparison would be to have a Hindu temple in Mecca or Vatican
City.
It is estimated that more than 32,000 temples in India were transformed
into Mosques in the last five hundred years. We have been tolerant.
Please visit Ayodhya, Mathura and Kasi(Varanasi) and you will know. You
will not our original temples in those sacred places.
If you relate it to the size of population, we have more churches and
mosques in India. So, I do not agree that we are not tolerant. But it
hurts when a church is going to be constructed next to the most sacred
Hindu place.
There was a blast in Delhi recently. How many international leaders
reacted strongly? If it happens to a Muslim or Christian Community, the
whole world will condemn India. Let us be real, folks, We are spineless.
Vittal A.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mahesh Gorle <mgorle2002@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: It is people who decide the fate of a state
> Friends,
> I usually take any issue to people.
> Why blame politicians for every thing. They are opportunists.
> They simply follow the people's trend.
> Hindus are the most tolerant people and to an extent easy going
> and not to bother or bothered kind of attitudes. Except for few
> interested people, there was no response from a common Hindu
> person on this issue. I guess that is the beauty and the
> disadvantage of Hinduism. Its too flexible to see Godliness in
> every thing. Including Gods of other religion.
> This is not the case with the other religions. A normal John or
> a Mohammad would participate in religious activity.
> If majority of Hindus shows interest in this matter, I am sure
> all the political parties jump on it.
> Resistance or cooperation happens from a common man. When he is
> not interested, no body will be.
> Let me bring an interesting discussion happened in a party
> recently. When I brought up this issue, one of my friend said that
> if we could build temples next to a church here in America, why
> not build a church next to our temple in India. Almost all in the
> group agreed to him.
>
> Thanks,
> Mahesh
>
> Kiran Gullapalli <kirang@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Vittal,
>
> Very nice point.Unfortunately in India, everything is Vote bank
> politics.
> If one party offers 5% reservation for a particular minority, the
> other
> party tries to outbid the other by offering 10%. They try to
> increase
> reservations on the back of OBCs(who are Hindus and for whom
> reservations
> were created in the first place)
>
> Since, the majority(Hindu), are divided into various caste's, and
> hence
> cannot vote as a block,there is no uniting voice which can oppose
> this
> measure.
>
> If any one opposes it, they are branded as communalists(MATATATVA
> VADI).
> Regarding, allocation of a place to build church in Tirumala, I
> have not one
> member of any party condemning this move. If they condemn, they
> lost an
> entire voting block.
>
> In India, the majority has no voice or representation to oppose
> these moves
> as the elected representatives are beholden to their leaders
> rather than
> speaking the voice of the public.
>
> In US, as everyone know, Bush proclaimed Jesus as his mentor.
>
> Imagine in India, AB Vajpaee(or any politician who is a Hindu),
> saying the
> same, that Lord Venakteswara is his mentor. There will be so much
> hue and
> cry with the English Language Media, the communists, branding ABV
> as a
> communalist.
>
> In India, in the guise of flawed Secularism, Majority has no say.
>
> Let me know your thoughts
>
> Kiran
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Vittal Anantatmula
> >Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: It is people who decide the fate of a state
> >Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:42:16 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >Two news items that have disturbed a lot of people about AP.
> >
> >1. Reservation for Muslims.
> >2. Land sale to Christians on Tirumala Hills for the construction
> of a
> >church.
> >
> >I believe politicians are either silent or supportive on these issues
> >for obvious reasons.
> >
> >
> >Vittal A.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
1 comment:
Dear members
This kind of discussion will not take us any where except a false satisfaction that we have done something for our people. No body ever thought about democracy and this TANA and TINA is interested in inviting the current ministers to US and what they did God knows, where as Bill Gates is doing some thing for Nalgonda or Madapur and with grace of TDP Naidu government we are in a position to get jobs even before our daughter gets her B Com results that too in deloitte without going to LA or Texas or some other city.
Instead looking for some thing look at ourselves. As JFK said ask what you did for this condition instead of asking what government has done. What is the Vote percentage? It is maximum 46 in the year 2004 and recent Bihar because of KJ Rao, it was 35 % and that means the earlier 15 years balance 40% is bogus votes. Like wise, we educated, middle class people who suffer most due to these governments and who search for shoulder in these blogs should ask one question:
Did I vote ? if not why? Have I encouraged any body in my community to vote?
Do I have the patience to stand in the Q and vote or am I interested to enjoy that day as holiday?
Those people who are back ward, BC ST and SC knows very well that no sensible upper class fellow will not come to booth and vote and who ever is going to be elected has to depend upon their caste and community. This thought has given them that these brahmins and other upper casts will any how will learn and leave the country or other wis become Personal secretaries to these ministers who are from lower casts… That is the Reserve Bank. Our own lethergy and our own indifference towards VOTE is our Kharma. It has happened onece and ask you father, in 1977 after Energency Indira Gandhi called for elections, and there was a wave and all the people voted against her except those people and she got defeated. The percentage was 70%.
See recent Municipal Polls . every where it was 85 to 90% How, and in contrast immediately if we check the Vijayawada Municiapl elections where some wards were postponed, the polling was only 45% and that shows s the other 40% earlier was bogus.
One year back I have written to that Jayaprakash Narayan who resigned from IAS and joined LOKSATTA. I requested him to start a campaign for educating the educated about the voting importance particular for their children’s welfare. He has no reply. But he is ready to start looking for criminals as soon as the elections were announced. What he could not able to do for the last 10 years, KJ Rao did in 3 months.
I wrote to TM Seshan and I wrote to Lokesh Naidu who is the son of Chandra Babu after his defeat. No reply.
No political party would like to invent a wheel by educating the educated middle class at this juncture. Today engineering seat is 25,000/ and that too for 30% marks. Can we take suicide? Is it possible to kill our children, is it possible for elders to die peacefully, are we ready to serve the minister of that kind, how many bridgs will collapse and how many children will die, and how many upper cast people can make it to US? And how about the future when the reservations started enforcing in Private companies? And if Deloitte and Dell and GE started looking for your caste certificate and You know, there was a demand that a percentage of US visas are to be reserved to SC and STs. 52 years! One generation is over. If only Sanjay Gandhi is alive and if only BJP got absolute majority….
Don’t waste the time in writing to blogs, better start writing the fate of our children. Start educating the educated. Rasie this issue in TANA, TINA or BINA etc, Or start small fund, I give the free design, free copy and get it printed and then we will distribute it. Or other wise discuss with RSS who can do some thing about it.
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