Friends,
Everything looks good and right whatever we are saying in this forum. The trend back in India is to compare everything with USA and not sure whether that is right or not. But at least being we are here should realize that we should have our own stand either let them to build church or not, no matter will they allow us to do it or not.
As Mahesh said "initiation should be from the people and political leaders will jump into it" I also agree that to certain extent that is right ( in present politics) and not blaming them for everything.
Let us think what we can do for this and how do we let them know our protest for this. How do we influence them or where to do we start to make them( people, politicians and our religion leaders such as Swamijis) involve in stopping this.
We can conduct a web based servey and publilsh the results. This could be just a start from us.
From: Mahesh Gorle <mgorle2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It is people who decide the fate of a state
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:24:40 -0800 (PST)
Friends,I usually take any issue to people.Why blame politicians for every thing. They are opportunists. They simply follow the people's trend.Hindus are the most tolerant people and to an extent easy going and not to bother or bothered kind of attitudes. Except for few interested people, there was no response from a common Hindu person on this issue. I guess that is the beauty and the disadvantage of Hinduism. Its too flexible to see Godliness in every thing. Including Gods of other religion.This is not the case with the other religions. A normal John or a Mohammad would participate in religious activity.If majority of Hindus shows interest in this matter, I am sure all the political parties jump on it.Resistance or cooperation happens from a common man. When he is not interested, no body will be.Let me bring an interesting discussion happened in a party recently. When I brought up this issue, one of my friend said that if we could build temples next to a church here in America, why not build a church next to our temple in India. Almost all in the group agreed to him.Thanks,Mahesh
Kiran Gullapalli <kirang@hotmail.com> wrote:
Vittal,
Very nice point.Unfortunately in India, everything is Vote bank politics.
If one party offers 5% reservation for a particular minority, the other
party tries to outbid the other by offering 10%. They try to increase
reservations on the back of OBCs(who are Hindus and for whom reservations
were created in the first place)
Since, the majority(Hindu), are divided into various caste's, and hence
cannot vote as a block,there is no uniting voice which can oppose this
measure.
If any one opposes it, they are branded as communalists(MATATATVA VADI).
Regarding, allocation of a place to build church in Tirumala, I have not one
member of any party condemning this move. If they condemn, they lost an
entire voting block.
In India, the majority has no voice or representation to oppose these moves
as the elected representatives are beholden to their leaders rather than
speaking the voice of the public.
In US, as everyone know, Bush proclaimed Jesus as his mentor.
Imagine in India, AB Vajpaee(or any politician who is a Hindu), saying the
same, that Lord Venakteswara is his mentor. There will be so much hue and
cry with the English Language Media, the communists, branding ABV as a
communalist.
In India, in the guise of flawed Secularism, Majority has no say.
Let me know your thoughts
Kiran
>From: Vittal Anantatmula
>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: It is people who decide the fate of a state
>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:42:16 -0500
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>Two news items that have disturbed a lot of people about AP.
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>1. Reservation for Muslims.
>2. Land sale to Christians on Tirumala Hills for the construction of a
>church.
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>I believe politicians are either silent or supportive on these issues
>for obvious reasons.
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>Vittal A.
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