Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Re: It is people who decide the fate of a state

http://www.omnamovenkatesaya.com/ttddairy_august2005_eng/august_26englishnews.htm

Please check the link above. It seems like it is a
rumor. I do not think Hindus will sit quite if this
is true. They may not take everything seriously, but
I guess we, Hindus, also have limits for our patience.
True that we do not take pride in being Hindus and
rest of the world does not give a damn if anything
happens to Hindus (case in point, Delhi incident you
mentioned), that is because of our corrupt elected
officials and the "Soft Country" image our country has
already established in the western world. It will
take lot of time to change this world view about our
country and requires dynamic leaders who are not
playing to vote-bank politics. And also, western
world has always operated on its own interests. What
was US interest in Pakistan until Sept. 11th? US has
poured billions of dollors into Pak. after Sept 11th.
And US is going to dump it like Afghanistan in 80's
once its need of Pakistan is over. We need to learn
this from them and start acting on our own interests.
We need to make Delhi incident a huge issue, not
Western world. Heck, we did not do anything even
after our parliament was attacked. If it were any
other country, it would have declared war with
Pakistan right after that incident.

Just my thoughts. Take it easy.

Jitendra

--- Vittal Anantatmula <vsa@gwu.edu> wrote:

>
> Because of vote-related politics, these things are
> happening. So
> politicians have a role in appeasing minority
> communities.
>
> Regarding our temples in the USA, it is not the
> right comparison. The
> correct comparison would be to have a Hindu temple
> in Mecca or Vatican
> City.
>
> It is estimated that more than 32,000 temples in
> India were transformed
> into Mosques in the last five hundred years. We have
> been tolerant.
> Please visit Ayodhya, Mathura and Kasi(Varanasi) and
> you will know. You
> will not our original temples in those sacred
> places.
>
> If you relate it to the size of population, we have
> more churches and
> mosques in India. So, I do not agree that we are not
> tolerant. But it
> hurts when a church is going to be constructed next
> to the most sacred
> Hindu place.
>
> There was a blast in Delhi recently. How many
> international leaders
> reacted strongly? If it happens to a Muslim or
> Christian Community, the
> whole world will condemn India. Let us be real,
> folks, We are spineless.
>
> Vittal A.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mahesh Gorle <mgorle2002@yahoo.com>
> Date: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:24 pm
> Subject: Re: It is people who decide the fate of a
> state
>
> > Friends,
> > I usually take any issue to people.
> > Why blame politicians for every thing. They are
> opportunists.
> > They simply follow the people's trend.
> > Hindus are the most tolerant people and to an
> extent easy going
> > and not to bother or bothered kind of attitudes.
> Except for few
> > interested people, there was no response from a
> common Hindu
> > person on this issue. I guess that is the beauty
> and the
> > disadvantage of Hinduism. Its too flexible to see
> Godliness in
> > every thing. Including Gods of other religion.
> > This is not the case with the other religions. A
> normal John or
> > a Mohammad would participate in religious
> activity.
> > If majority of Hindus shows interest in this
> matter, I am sure
> > all the political parties jump on it.
> > Resistance or cooperation happens from a common
> man. When he is
> > not interested, no body will be.
> > Let me bring an interesting discussion happened
> in a party
> > recently. When I brought up this issue, one of my
> friend said that
> > if we could build temples next to a church here in
> America, why
> > not build a church next to our temple in India.
> Almost all in the
> > group agreed to him.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mahesh
> >
> > Kiran Gullapalli <kirang@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Vittal,
> >
> > Very nice point.Unfortunately in India, everything
> is Vote bank
> > politics.
> > If one party offers 5% reservation for a
> particular minority, the
> > other
> > party tries to outbid the other by offering 10%.
> They try to
> > increase
> > reservations on the back of OBCs(who are Hindus
> and for whom
> > reservations
> > were created in the first place)
> >
> > Since, the majority(Hindu), are divided into
> various caste's, and
> > hence
> > cannot vote as a block,there is no uniting voice
> which can oppose
> > this
> > measure.
> >
> > If any one opposes it, they are branded as
> communalists(MATATATVA
> > VADI).
> > Regarding, allocation of a place to build church
> in Tirumala, I
> > have not one
> > member of any party condemning this move. If they
> condemn, they
> > lost an
> > entire voting block.
> >
> > In India, the majority has no voice or
> representation to oppose
> > these moves
> > as the elected representatives are beholden to
> their leaders
> > rather than
> > speaking the voice of the public.
> >
> > In US, as everyone know, Bush proclaimed Jesus as
> his mentor.
> >
> > Imagine in India, AB Vajpaee(or any politician who
> is a Hindu),
> > saying the
> > same, that Lord Venakteswara is his mentor. There
> will be so much
> > hue and
> > cry with the English Language Media, the
> communists, branding ABV
> > as a
> > communalist.
> >
> > In India, in the guise of flawed Secularism,
> Majority has no say.
> >
> > Let me know your thoughts
> >
> > Kiran
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Vittal Anantatmula
> > >Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> > >To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: It is people who decide the fate of
> a state
> > >Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:42:16 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Two news items that have disturbed a lot of
> people about AP.
> > >
> > >1. Reservation for Muslims.
> > >2. Land sale to Christians on Tirumala Hills for
> the construction
> > of a
> > >church.
> > >
> > >I believe politicians are either silent or
> supportive on these issues
> > >for obvious reasons.
> > >
> > >
> > >Vittal A.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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