I meant literacy i.e. who can read and write. We have more than 50% of
electorate who cann't read and write. Those people are being misled so
easily in India. They do not understand that as a voter in a democratic
system, we can demand a better government from elected officials.
Also, we do not have accountability, no checks and balances. If we go back
to India, many of us will behave the same way like others in India. If we
know that we can get away from something, then it is a human tendency that
we all do it.
Moral, ethical, legal standards are so high in this country for people in
high positions such that even Jaya Lalitha and Lallu Yadav will hesitate to
take bribes if they are in those positions !!
As we have exposure and experience with this system, we should demand our
elected officials to reform our system for common good and to benefit all
citizens of India !!!
Thanks.
Srinivas Repala
Ph: 703-862-0065
>From: Vikram Varun <impressxpress@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: "Democracy is meaning less without education"- Re:
>cash-for-query scam
>Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:23:18 -0800 (PST)
>
> Srinivas Repala, did you mean education or civilization..? In India
>education does not breed civilization, higher education is perceived purely
>for self betterment like to get a good job, dowry or to go out of country
>and live happily. In civilized societies like US we see more literates than
>people with education.
>
> When a common man can get justice for ANY issue with in no time, when
>there is transparency in implementating law and order and when laws of the
>land are implemented without fear then system will clean corruption,
>high-handness, corrupt politicians & thugs, sectarian exploiters,
>terrorists, scam artists & etc. Until then pray for god to comeback to
>India take care of Ravanas again.
>
> Talking about betterment of somebody else's lives, I like Santosh
>Kumar's Ideas please provide more details so, people will have a chance to
>act on it.
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
> From: "Ramesh Koganti" <rkoganti@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: "Democracy is meaning less without education"- Re:
>cash-for-query scam
>Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:47:36 +0000
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Respectful group members,
> I am not quite sure if there is a good correlation between education and
>corruption. I believe corruption is originating from the well educated
>people. In India, most of the leadership positions in the Government
>department are being given to people who has excellent education. Example:
>IAS/IPS/IFS officers.
> If the leaders live by higher standards and act as a role models to the
>team they are leading, corruption can be minimized and potentially can be
>eliminated. But, if the leader is corrupt, what kind if message he/she
>sending to his team? Lack of morales, expectations, and accountability at
>the leadership level is one of the reasons for the corruption.
>
>Some of us (I am first in "some") are transpiring into materialistic people
>and our desires for materialistic objects is growing better than
>exponentially. If one has high materialistic desire, I think, the
>probability of being is corrupt is relatively high. Education did not teach
>us to be a materialistic human being and as far as I am concerned education
>taught me the life of greatest leaders born on the face of earth like,
>Mahatma Gandhi, Ramakrishna Paramahansa, Vivekananda.
> Why I am not following the principles of these leaders? The answer I
>get is "you can only take the horse to the river, you cannot make it to
>drink". Similarly, all my teachers taught me good education and how I apply
>the eductaion is depend on me. If I am content and happy with what I have
>and be satisfied with just legal pay check, where is the room for
>corruption in me? Since I am not content, it leads to all kinds of
>non-sense and one of that non-sense if the corruption.
> "A materialistic person looks outside for happiness, a spiritual person
>looks inside for happiness" ........unknown source.
> With love,
> Ramesh
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>From: "Santosh" <santoshkumar@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
>To: <AndhraOne@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: "Democracy is meaning less without education"- Re:
>cash-for-query scam
>Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:07:34 -0500
> >
> >Dear Groopies,
> >
> >Good discussions and excellent points raised!!! Now that the topic
> >of
> >education is on the table, let me point to this about my education:
> >I was
> >educated in a private school, elementary through graduate school
> >for which
> >my parents paid fees that kept increasing, although I sound
> >exaggerating, in
> >geometrical proportions with respect to the rate of inflation.
> >
> >Now we all know that Indians are known world over for their
> >excellent
> >education. But the fact remains that it is due to the work done by
> >private
> >institutions that fleece parents with their demands for donations
> >(although
> >this is regulated by government agencies). While there are
> >government
> >schools, I would like to get a feeling as to how many of us
> >including the
> >elite (political/industry) in India would send our kids to a
> >Government
> >school.
> >
> >I see the argument coming. What about RECs, IITs, etc.? While they
> >are world
> >renowned for their excellence in education, even though they are
> >government
> >run, they haven't been demonstrating scalability. The number of
> >seats
> >haven't increased to keep up with the demand of the merited
> >students. And
> >considering the amount of money that is spent on them, only a
> >disgusting
> >fraction of them return to government services while a great number
> >of them
> >are captured by the MNCs.
> >
> >Of course, I am aware that I am opening a can of worms but in my
> >opinion we
> >need a massive revolution in the area of education.
> >
> >It will be nice if we can influence a start of a pilot project for
> >10
> >Government run schools (elementary through high school to start
> >with) be
> >started in some remote rural regions with only a direct reporting to
> >the
> >ministry of education and the CM/PM's office. The details can be
> >worked out
> >with a brainstorm by many a minds of this group.
> >
> >Santosh
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "srinivas repala"
> ><srepala@hotmail.com>
> >To: <AndhraOne@googlegroups.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:14 PM
> >Subject: "Democracy is meaning less without education"- Re:
> >cash-for-query
> >scam
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Nobody is a saint. There is corruption in US, India, and for that
> >>matter
> >>all over the world.
> >>
> >>All of us including Cogressmen, senators, VP, and President pay
> >>taxes in
> >>US. Many of these people have to submit a lengthy financial
> >>disclosure
> >>forms, declare their assets, income, FBI background check etc to
> >>get
> >>appointed to high positions in the govenrnment. Imagine CBI doing a
> >>background check for similar positions in India !!!!
> >>
> >>We don't hear somebdoy bribing a Police officer, prosecutor, judge,
> >>jury,
> >>auditors, and government employees in US. Imagine that in India !!
> >>
> >>If 90% of employees are corrupt in US, this country will not look
> >>like
> >>the way it is now. There may be some kickbacks happening in private
> >>industry, but we hardly see it happening in the government.
> >>
> >>None of the western socities will tolerate the amount of corruption
> >>we
> >>have in India. They are definitely not saints. Obviously, they are
> >>not 90%
> >>corrupt !!
> >>
> >>"Democracy is meaning less without education". That's the reason
> >>why
> >>democratic system is not working for all citizens in India while
> >>working
> >>well in western countries !!!
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >>Srinivas Repala
> >>Ph: 703-862-0065
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Srinivas nallanagula" <vasnallana@hotmail.com>
> >>>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >>>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >>>Subject: Re: cash-for-query scam
> >>>Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:51:33 +0000
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>May be this scam has given us a pretty good idea and also with in
> >>>the
> >>>frame work of constitution that is to get rid anybody who is not
> >>>performing(Recall provision). I am sure lot others like me ready
> >>>to bear
> >>>the expenses for sting operations. And also it has proved sting
> >>>operation
> >>>works quickly too.
> >>>Regarding 90% of the US work force is corrupt, I think there is no
> >>>known
> >>>authentic fact is available.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Srinivas Nallanalgu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: Mahesh Gorle <mahesh.gorle@gmail.com>
> >>>>Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >>>>To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: cash-for-query scam
> >>>>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:01:26 -0500
> >>>>
> >>>>If we do sting operations on all the Govt. employees, Media
> >>>>people, why
> >>>>for
> >>>>the matter all the employees in America, 90% of the work force
> >>>>would be
> >>>>gone.
> >>>>If we Sting operations on Human biengs, I am sure the percent
> >>>>does
> >>>>maintain.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Mahesh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On 12/14/05, Srinivas nallanagula <vasnallana@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Hi All,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I think members might be following the cash-for-query scam. It
> >>>>is a
> >>>>just
> >>>> > thought.
> >>>> > If we do sting operation on each and every MP, MLA there would
> >>>>not be
> >>>> > a
> >>>> > single MP or MLA
> >>>> > would be left.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Srinivas Nallanagula
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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