Re: seeking justice

Folks,

This looks like a decent debate from some of the other ones we are having lately.

I am from one of the backward places in Northern Andhra. People and conditions are much more miserable there. Agriculture is mostly dependent on natural resources. Usually, there is only one major crop for the year. They don't do multy crops a year. They are innocent and doesn't even know to raise their voices. The politicians from this regions are said to be the most luckiest, lazy and spoiled. Some of the politicians are non-local and have little interest in the people.

People are more docile and don't expect much. They never learned to fight for their rights. People who are educated migrate to cities and the rest are stuck to the simple life. But, what I observed in these people is that they seem to be happier when compared to the other region.

I am not sure to participate and agitate them to fight for their rights or let them lead their simple and less ambitious life where they seem to be happier.

Regards,

Mahesh Gorle
 

On 12/11/05, Ramana Muppalla <muppallar@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ramana garu,

Thanks for the spirited reply to my aggressive response about the video. I
hope that this will turn into an educative and constructive dialogue between
all of us.

I still stand by my opinion about the video. Let me explain the other way
round of negativism. Assume there is Mr.X, a farmer from Prakasam district
(large number of farmers committed suicide in this district too.). His son
goes to Khammam district to attend some function in a village and gets a
feeling that Khammam is very developed district and his "Andhra region" is
neglected. An educated person from his district makes a video spinning his
viewpoint. That is exactly what the video is doing. I DO NOT say that
Telangana is not backward. The argument that backwardness of the region is
due to Andhra people is too much to start with.

Could you please clarify about the kakatiya canal gates thing? I do have
broad idea but not to the level of every village and Taluk. If I guess it
right, this canal is on Godavari River. I am still not convinced (could not
believe) that some one has to open the gates of Godavari river to allow
water to go to Andhra region. Most of the water from Godavari river goes
into sea because we still are not using its full potential.

Politicians just exploit the emotions and after being educated if we fall
for their mechanisms, we as community and society will be a failure.
Unfortunately that is where some of us are heading for.


BTW your name and mine are same and we speak the same language. That may be
the another reason why we should not talk about seperatism :)

I will write more about the sudden water scarcity and the policy failures
tomorrow.


-Ramana


----Original Message Follows----
From: ramana_cr@yahoo.com
Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
To: "AndhraOne" <AndhraOne@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: seeking justice
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:57:47 -0800


I strongly disagree with the argument that many positive things
happened to telangana since independence (Other than Hyderabad and the
outskirts of course where most of the 50% industrialization took
plave). I hail from Warangal and recently( January this year) visited
my ancestral village in Warangal and Nalgonda district( my maternal
ancestral village)
My village Gopalpuram near Narasampet for those of you familiar with
the district has some of the fertile lands in Warangal district and I
was surprised to see the abject poverty in my village. The one reason
is draught but that is not the only reason. I talked to the village
elders and they said that even when we had drought before we had ground
water atleast for one crop. The last few years(except this year) they
did not have ground and the main reason is that water is being diverted
to other regions of state and the gates to the Kakatiya canal are not
being opened so that other regions can have water.
While I agree with the fact that we live in a world of limited
resources what justice is this when one region can get more water while
the people from other regions are completely cut out of these scarce
resource. When you state that this is cheap propaganda and only looks
at negative side, what positive view should the people from my village
should take. Should they be happy that the other districts are enjoying
the few resources that go through the district? It is very easy to
criticize the others view points but please try to gauge the depth of
the plight what the farmers in Telangana are going through.
The state of the village I visited in  Nalgonda is worse. I lived in
Vishakhapatnam for 2 years and visited the villages there  during my
trip. Even though the situation is not as good as it was in 1990's, it
is still not  as bad as the villages in telangana

I see more sectarian stupidity now than in years before and I believe
education is not bringing down the barriers but increasing them- Most
of the people I know have post graduate degrees here and the divide
between communities is much greater now than before when i graduated
from my school.
Industrialization, reducing the dependence on agriculture are all noble
causes but what about today? How can you have any propaganda that
unites when we are truly divided between the haves and have-nots where
the people in power, the ones who truly hold the power the
administrators, are from the other regions and they refuse to do
anything for Telangana. The only way this to stop everyone has to make
an effort to equally distribute the scarce resources and truly try to
understand the problems and not just shoot down the viewpoints from the
other side

Ramana




Ramana Muppalla wrote:
> I simpathize with the plight of the farmers and poor in Telangana, I also
> would like to remind as many farmers died due to suicides in so called
> fertile Andhra region and Rayalaseema region. It is unfortunate that
during
> drought farmers are resorting this due to abject poverty. Damn it! it is
> still the drought that is the reason and nothing else.
>
> Other than Krishna, part of Guntur and Godavari districts all other
> districts in AP are water scarcity districts. In some districts it is
accute
> and in some other districts has water for drinking.
>
> This video is just propganda material. It has cloogy logic by just taking
> the negative side of the story. There are many positive things that
happened
> to Telangana since independence.
>
> While the video takes the examples of Mahaboobnagar district, it forgets
to
> take the examples of development happended to districts like Rangareddy,
> Nizamabad and Khammam(This is almost as fertile as Krishna dt.). Warangal
is
> also moderately developed.
>
> It also forgets to compare the industral strengths of Telangana to even
so
> called rich Andhra. Roughly 50% of the AP's industrialization happened in
> Telangana region.
>
> Read the 2020 vision by Abdul Kalam. As per research, the water is
limited
> no matter what we do. The maximum we can do is distribute it evenly and
> manage it properly. This really takes time. It took more than 50 years in
> most developed nations.
>
> The bottomline is to maximize the industrilization and discorage the
> population from dependence on Agriculture as a long term plan and on a
short
> term help the farmers with subsidies and group farming. There should be
> serious discouragement of going for cash crops by small farmers. Also
> farming should be corprotized with shares and investments etc.
>
> There are political failures across the state and country as well w.r.t
> farming. There are deaths in West Godavari district too. Maharastra,
Orissa
> are also affected due to drought. Unfortunately farmers died everywhere.
>
> This is cheap propaganda of targeting the another regions innocent people
> for the plight of the poor in one region who all in the end has blood
> relations since ages.
>
> I would love to see any propaganda that unites people even in distress
> rather that that divides. This is pure cheap from educated folks.
>
> I hope after doing such a great strides in education people from AP will
> rise against the sectarian stupidity and find solutions to the problems.
>
> -Ramana