Hi All,
Nice points Srinivas garu. Granted illiterates get
exploited more than literates, I donno if illiteracy
itslef is the root cause of the corruption. I think
our moral values and our upbringing greatly influnce
who you are and who you grow up to be in the soceity.
Here is an example from my life. Two people I know:
One is one of best friends (say Person 1) and another
is an elder brother to our classmate (say Person 2).
I know both of these people from my childhood. Both
got selected into Police Force as SI's at the same
time. Person 2 was extremely corrupt, was hand in
glove with all the corrupt politicians wherever he was
posted. He was doing this from day 1. Person 1 was
very honest and was a terror to local goons and
corrupt wherever he was posted. After 5 years of
service and 5 transfers, Person 1 quit because he
could not take the abuse anymore. Person 2 became
very rich and politicians are vying to have him in
their constituencies. This is the reality. I was in
India in May, and met Person 1. He had a dairy of his
service (paper clippings, news clips, etc) and we were
discussing the situation. His general observations
were:
Higher ups ( in Department chain) respect you immensly
if you are honest though they do not express the same
directly to you. Corrupts get very bad treatment from
the higher ups.
Just wanted to share my experiences since the
discussion was so apt.
Thanks
Jitendra
--- srinivas repala <srepala@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I meant literacy i.e. who can read and write. We
> have more than 50% of
> electorate who cann't read and write. Those people
> are being misled so
> easily in India. They do not understand that as a
> voter in a democratic
> system, we can demand a better government from
> elected officials.
>
> Also, we do not have accountability, no checks and
> balances. If we go back
> to India, many of us will behave the same way like
> others in India. If we
> know that we can get away from something, then it is
> a human tendency that
> we all do it.
>
> Moral, ethical, legal standards are so high in this
> country for people in
> high positions such that even Jaya Lalitha and Lallu
> Yadav will hesitate to
> take bribes if they are in those positions !!
>
> As we have exposure and experience with this system,
> we should demand our
> elected officials to reform our system for common
> good and to benefit all
> citizens of India !!!
>
>
>
> Thanks.
> Srinivas Repala
> Ph: 703-862-0065
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Vikram Varun <impressxpress@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: "Democracy is meaning less without
> education"- Re:
> >cash-for-query scam
> >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:23:18 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > Srinivas Repala, did you mean education or
> civilization..? In India
> >education does not breed civilization, higher
> education is perceived purely
> >for self betterment like to get a good job, dowry
> or to go out of country
> >and live happily. In civilized societies like US we
> see more literates than
> >people with education.
> >
> > When a common man can get justice for ANY issue
> with in no time, when
> >there is transparency in implementating law and
> order and when laws of the
> >land are implemented without fear then system will
> clean corruption,
> >high-handness, corrupt politicians & thugs,
> sectarian exploiters,
> >terrorists, scam artists & etc. Until then pray for
> god to comeback to
> >India take care of Ravanas again.
> >
> > Talking about betterment of somebody else's
> lives, I like Santosh
> >Kumar's Ideas please provide more details so,
> people will have a chance to
> >act on it.
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Ramesh Koganti" <rkoganti@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Re: "Democracy is meaning less without
> education"- Re:
> >cash-for-query scam
> >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:47:36 +0000
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Respectful group members,
> > I am not quite sure if there is a good
> correlation between education and
> >corruption. I believe corruption is originating
> from the well educated
> >people. In India, most of the leadership positions
> in the Government
> >department are being given to people who has
> excellent education. Example:
> >IAS/IPS/IFS officers.
> > If the leaders live by higher standards and act
> as a role models to the
> >team they are leading, corruption can be minimized
> and potentially can be
> >eliminated. But, if the leader is corrupt, what
> kind if message he/she
> >sending to his team? Lack of morales, expectations,
> and accountability at
> >the leadership level is one of the reasons for the
> corruption.
> >
> >Some of us (I am first in "some") are transpiring
> into materialistic people
> >and our desires for materialistic objects is
> growing better than
> >exponentially. If one has high materialistic
> desire, I think, the
> >probability of being is corrupt is relatively high.
> Education did not teach
> >us to be a materialistic human being and as far as
> I am concerned education
> >taught me the life of greatest leaders born on the
> face of earth like,
> >Mahatma Gandhi, Ramakrishna Paramahansa,
> Vivekananda.
> > Why I am not following the principles of these
> leaders? The answer I
> >get is "you can only take the horse to the river,
> you cannot make it to
> >drink". Similarly, all my teachers taught me good
> education and how I apply
> >the eductaion is depend on me. If I am content and
> happy with what I have
> >and be satisfied with just legal pay check, where
> is the room for
> >corruption in me? Since I am not content, it leads
> to all kinds of
> >non-sense and one of that non-sense if the
> corruption.
> > "A materialistic person looks outside for
> happiness, a spiritual person
> >looks inside for happiness" ........unknown source.
> > With love,
> > Ramesh
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >From: "Santosh" <santoshkumar@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: AndhraOne@googlegroups.com
> >To: <AndhraOne@googlegroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: "Democracy is meaning less without
> education"- Re:
> >cash-for-query scam
> >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:07:34 -0500
> > >
> > >Dear Groopies,
> > >
> > >Good discussions and excellent points raised!!!
> Now that the topic
> > >of
> > >education is on the table, let me point to this
> about my education:
> > >I was
> > >educated in a private school, elementary through
> graduate school
> > >for which
> > >my parents paid fees that kept increasing,
> although I sound
> > >exaggerating, in
> > >geometrical proportions with respect to the rate
> of inflation.
> > >
> > >Now we all know that Indians are known world over
> for their
> > >excellent
> > >education. But the fact remains that it is due to
> the work done by
> > >private
> > >institutions that fleece parents with their
> demands for donations
> > >(although
> > >this is regulated by government agencies). While
> there are
> > >government
> > >schools, I would like to get a feeling as to how
> many of us
> > >including the
> > >elite (political/industry) in India would send
> our kids to a
> > >Government
> > >school.
> > >
> > >I see the argument coming. What about RECs, IITs,
> etc.? While they
>
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